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Do We Need Angels?

Likkutei Torah Haazenu Maamar Kenesher Yaeir Keno. Second and Final Class

1 hr 19 min

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Likkutei Torah Haazenu Maamar Kenesher Yaeir Keno. Second and Final Class

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    Shmuli C. -12 years ago

    Angels & Souls


    B"H



    Thank you Rabbi first of all for a powerful class and its pragmatic perspective for everyday relevance.



    Second, please correct and modify anything that may require so, but is it logically conclusive to say that although angels help souls attain the lower level of Teshuva Tatuh, they do not help a soul transcend the lower to reach the Higher level of Teshuva Ilaah which reaches the essence of a soul how its unbridled in its pristine zenith in the heavenly spheres???



    (I mean, there's got to be a level that's higher than an angel can even access and only souls themselves can approach that level. I constantly get the impression from Chassidus that our essence is an extension of Gd whereas angels are a creation of Gd. So angels are inferior to souls in both their respective sources so to speak. What is that level called?. You touched on it briefly in the lesson last 6 minutes by saying there's an infinite assistance type of angel that helps souls in unlimited fashion. Do souls need angels every step of the way?



    What is the level where a Tzaddik communicates with direct in a direct countenance encounter, in this world, without any medium?)



    Shmuli,

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      Anonymous -12 years ago

      Re: Angels & Souls
       I’m including your letter in my response to make it easier to follow.

      1) Thank you Rabbi first of all for a powerful class and its pragmatic perspective for everyday relevance.

      2) Second, please correct and modify anything that may require so, but is it logically conclusive to say that although angels help souls attain the lower level of Teshuva Tatuh, they do not help a soul transcend the lower to reach the Higher level of Teshuva Ilaah which reaches the essence of a soul how its unbridled in its pristine zenith in the heavenly spheres???

      Answer: Naturally on the higher the higher levels Souls go beyond what they need angels to help them with. The question of what is the point of passing the Angels cannot be guessed. It must be found explicitly in a Maamar. So, I agree with you but this kind of thing needs a source.

      3) (I mean, there's got to be a level that's higher than an angel can even access and only souls themselves can approach that level. I constantly get the impression from Chassidus that our essence is an extension of God whereas angels are a creation of G-d. So angels are inferior to souls in both their respective sources so to speak.

      4) What is that level called?

      Answer: See Maamarei Shavuos 5667. Neshamos are from Machshava while Angels are from dibbur. Souls are from Pnimiyus while Angels are from Chitzoniyus, Souls are from Pnimiyus of Chitzoniyus HaMachshsva, while Angels are from Chitzoniyus of Chitzoniyus HaMachshava.

      5) You touched on it briefly in the lesson last 6 minutes by saying there's an infinite assistance type of angel that helps souls in unlimited fashion. Do souls need angels every step of the way?

      Answer: I don’t remember saying that.

      6) What is the level where a Tzaddik communicates with direct in a direct countenance encounter, in this world, without any medium?)

      Answer: Merkava perhaps.

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