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Rambam Hilchos De'os Chapter 2

When Extremes Are Good for You

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This class, in Rambam the Laws of De'os, chapter two, was presented on Wednesday Parshas Va'eschanan, 8 Av, 5780, July 29, 2020, streaming live from Rabbi Jacobson's House in Monsey, NY

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  • Anonymous -3 years ago

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  • Anonymous -3 years ago

    The mug is very appropriate for todays class

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    Kaila C Stempel -3 years ago

    Question for Rabbi YY

    Not a question. This was so good! It was a teaching that can make life better.

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    Mordechai Litzman -3 years ago

    What would the Rambam say about bullying? I used to think that I should just let it go, but now I think that it is better tio stand up to it since otherwise the bully may continue bullying other people.

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    Moshe -3 years ago

    Holy Ruziner

    Story reminder 

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    Sara -3 years ago

    Those who are morally ill

    You said there are two kinds of people who are morally ill. Those who don’t know it and those who do know it. The ones who do know it hopefully will go to a soul doctor. But what about the ones who don’t know it?. They truly believe that bitter is sweet and sweet is bitter, etc. How are they healed?

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    Moshe -3 years ago

    The ever expanding DSM categories for mental health

    The "Bible" of mental health professionals is the DSM with succeeding numbers. This "gold standard" lays out criteria for diagnosis, the various mental illnesses and conditions, treatment, meds,  etc.

      The problem is that insurance  (and rich people) will pay for a professional and their services and meds and any treatment necessary ONLY if there is  a DSM diagnosis, if there is  an insurance "code" etc. The dx and code is key to getting them to pay.

      That would be fine, but....

      What used to  be a character trait, e.g. shyness, is now given a diagnosis, a name, Asperger's, and therefore a DSM dx, an insurance code, and therefore funds will flow from the insurance company or government to all those who treat the condition.  Giving a dx opens the door to a flow of funds and a parnassa.

     Therefore the tendency is to increase the range of diagnoses, the range of DSM "illnesses", and so the system,  especially the  mental health system to continuously expand.

      I mention this only because the Rambam refers us to "soul doctor" professionals but I opine that, unlike physical illnesses, this is often, but not always, a profession built upon a shaky foundation only possible in a relatively rich country and era. 

     P.s. i know special needs individuals who  suffer from "pica" a disorder where they eat nonedibles like plastic and  paper. 

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      Moshe -3 years ago

      So who decides what's a "normal" character trait and what's "abnormal". Torah people and Torah based or secular professionals? 

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    MZ -3 years ago

    Question for Rabbi YY

    the nefesh can only be healed by people of high spiritual standing, but doctors dont have to live healthy -- bertand russel

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  • Anonymous -3 years ago

    Rav Yosef Yitzchak on healing the soul

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      Moshe -3 years ago

      please realize that most of  us here need translation. It is, therefore, disrespectful.  And overly long 

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    Mark -3 years ago

    Question for Rabbi YY

    cant find the Source sheet today...

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  • Anonymous -3 years ago

    Halacha 7

    daas umachshava

    לא יהא אדם בעל שחוק ומהתלות. הטור פירש בזמן הזה, שהאסור משום אבילות, אבל בזמן המקדש מותר, אבל לרמב"ם אין זה מפני אבילות רק מפני ששחוק וקלות ראש מרגיל האדם לידי עבירה.
    ומיהו אפשר לחלק בין בעל שחוק המבואר ברמב"ם כאן, דמיירי שרגיל בשחוק ולכן אסור תמיד, ולמלא פיו שחוק האסור רק בזמן הזה דמיירי באקראי, ומ"מ לא ימלא פיו שחוק וא"ש.

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    (panim yafos)

    sefer middos vedeos

    ה"ז מקבל את כל האדם בסבר פנים יפות - מי שאיננו אדם עליון, רוחני, לא מבני עליה, אלא אדם פשוט, טבעי, מצוי ורגיל, הוא אוהב את עצמו מטבעו ואיננו רוצה בטובתם של אחרים אלא בטובת עצמו, "כי יצר לב האדם רע מנעוריו", וכבר אמרו חז"ל אדם קרוב אצל עצמו (ראה נ"י פ"ק דסנהדרין דף רע"ב, סנהדרין דף י', הליכות אלי' אות קי"ח, רב אלפסי ונ"י פ"ו דיבמות דף תנ"ד ע"א, שו"ע אהע"ז סי' י"ז סעיף ז', נחלת צבי ס"ק ט"ו, רב אלפסי ונ"י פ"ב דיבמות דף ת"ח ע"ב, רשב"א בספר "תולדות אדם" תשובה קנ"ט). אלא שחכמי המוסר והמדות באו לשפר את מעשיו ולשנות את טבעו טיבו ותכונתו ונטעו בלבו אהבת אדם והדאגה לטובת בני אדם והצורך בטפולם ובעניני חייהם, ואמרו (אבות פ"א משנה ט"ו) והוה מקבל את כל האדם בסבר פנים יפות. והמקור הוא מקור קדוש, בתורה, כך כתוב "וירא וירץ לקראתם וכו' וישתחו ארצה וכו' יוקח נא וכו' והשענו תחת העץ (בראשית י"ח ב-ג') ורשב"י אומר: צרפתית ע"י שהאכילה את אליהו זכתה להחיות את בנה וכו' א"ר יהודה בר אלעאי, אפילו נרות ופתילות היה אליהו מעביר ממקום למקום כדי שלא יטריח לכל בריאה, ר"י בר סימון אמר, כי משלה אכל והלא היא והוא משלו אכלו כדכתיב ותאכל היא והוא, הוא והיא כתוב, אלא על ידי שקבלה אותו בסבר פנים יפות ושמשתו, זכתה להחיות את בנה (שהש"ר בפ' סמכוני) ואמרו: מלמד שאם נתן אדם לחברו כל מתנות טובות שבעולם ופניו זעומות, מעלה עליו כאילו לא נתן כלום, אבל המקבל את חברו בסבר פנים יפות, אפילו לא נתן לו כלום, מעלה עליו כאילו נתן לו כל מתנות טובות שבעולם" (אדר"נ פ' ג' ועיין מדרש משלי (פרשה ט"ו) ובכתובות (דף קי"ב ע"ב) טוב המלבין שינים חברו יותר ממשקהו חלב, רש"י, להראות פנים שוחקות לבני אדם, ובקדושין (דף ל' ע"ב) יש מאכיל לאביו פסיוני וטורדו מן העולם ויש מטחינו ברחיים ומביאו לעוה"ב עיי"ש.  

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      Moshe -3 years ago

      please realize that most of us need translation.  It is,  therefore, disrespectful.  And overly long 

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  • Anonymous -3 years ago

    Halacha 3

    והוא גובה הלב שאין דרך הטובה שיהיה אדם עניו בלבד אלא שיהיה שפל רוח ותהיה רוחו נמוכה מאד. בסוטה (ה.) דתלמיד חכם צריך שיהיה בו אחד משמיני שבשמינית והיינו שצריך מעט גאוה שאז בני העיר יראים ממנו ויכול להוכיחם ע"ש ברש"י, והרמב"ם לא הביא דבר זה שלבסוף מסקינן "לא מיניה ולא מקצתיה" ואין היתר גם לשמינית שבשמינית.
    והגר"א זצ"ל פירש שמותר להתגאות "שמיני שבשמינית" היינו פסוק שמיני בפרשת וישלח שהיא פרשה שמינית, אמר יעקב קטונתי מכל החסדים, הרי שפירש בזכות עצמו ולא בזכות אבותיו, רק בזה מותר שהטובות שכבר קיבל אינו ראוי להם, ויתקרב עצמו בכך יותר לאלקינו, אבל לפני שמקבלם יתלה ויבקש בזכות אבות דוקא שהוא כאפס ואין.
    (daas umachshava)

    The Tzemech Tzedek writes תמונה

    תמונה

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      Moshe -3 years ago

      please realize that most of us need translation.  It is, therefore,  the.  And overly long 

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  • Anonymous -3 years ago

    Halcha 4

    ואמרו לא מצאתי לגוף טוב אלא שתיקה

    What is being added with' leguf' 

    ayen maharal 

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  • Anonymous -3 years ago

    Alaway remember to daven

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      Moshe -3 years ago

      please realize that most of us need translation.  Therefore it is disrespectful.  

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  • Anonymous -3 years ago

    What is the 1st step in the healing process

    (from Rav moshe Shapiro based on my understanding)

    A person needs to understand the situation one is in and he needs tochacha as the rambam says in hilchos teshuva

    (4:2)" Admonishment leads to Teshuvah. When a person is informed about his sins and shamed because of them, he will repent."

    He has to be embarrased and he needs to be put in his place that with his lifestyle he is removing himself from this world and you are guily and responsible to fix yourself. He has to reallze he is destroying his divine image. (rav chaim vital says that charachter traits are not mention in the torah becausde one without good charachter is not a 'bar daas' not someone who is subject to commandments) The sinner has to be told you are not a bar daas, you are running away from your purpose here, and your divine image, and that he needs to take responsibility, only then could he repent.

    Since everyone wants to be the divine person he really is, this drive for his own honor will lead him to take responsibility and repernt. The soul of a person is called honor and honor is what keeps a person alive. It is said over from the great sage of slabodka that if one would remove every bit of honor from the person he would no longer be able to live. Without honor one cannot live and honor is what connects the soul to the body. 

    The embarrasment one feels will lead him to return to his true self. The honor that he was lacking throuh his improper conduct will lead him to his true place. He will regain control over his life and take action to be lead with his Intelect (daas)

    ... it is understood this has to be done properly. one cannot embarrass someone publicly. One has to provide him with the proper guidance and to show his great capabilities to rasie up his honor with bringing out his talents and unique qualities. Show him his tremendous potential if he fixes his ways. Describe to him the destruction that he will cause if he just leaves himself alone. The rebuke given has to be with a deep love and with being careful with his dignity. (especially in our generation where people are very sensitive) However, Tochacha, rebuke, is the only way. One could never take away even a little bit of the responsibility one has for oneself he is obligated to be a 'ben daas' (to act with intellect) This is the law and one cannot exempt himself from this.

    ... A person was made in the image of God which is his power of choice. If one says I cannot take it. I cannot handle my situation- it has to be revealed to him he is in the image of God and since this is so he cannot kill himself. One who does not have choice is not in the image of God. A perosn cannto give up willingly on this godliness that was given to him. Therfore we have a commandment to choose good and to choose life. (uvacharta etc.) It has to be clearly explained and emphasized a perosn always has choice in every situation that he is in and it his prohibited for him to losse his freedom of choice. One cannot hide behind the answer I did not choose this. I had no choice in the matter. Because one is always responsible for his own deeds. No one can escape from this except the 'shoteh' ( one who lost his mind completly and really has no control)

    Those who heal souls only heal with the "daas" tha they teach to their patients. The explanation of the matter is one has to return his patient to the status of a "bar daas' . He has to show the patient his reflection in the mirror and the honor inside of him his inner core that is divine and this will help him take responsibility for himself to start acting with daas.

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    Sarah -3 years ago

    Chapter 1 thoughts, questions, comments …

    Personal development – could what Rambam says in Chapter 1, “each and every man possesses many character traits” also mean that one person could have a mixture of different extremes, a combination of different traits, like a particular person could be very angry, but also generous and/or humble at the same time?
    Do the tendencies we are born with guarantee (as I say the word guarantee I know that there are no guarantees), that we will be that way, or do we have to develop them to become that way?
    Bottom line on all of this I think ?? the huge element of free will, which suggests that we can change if we want to, if we work at it, if it’s important to us.
    I’ve always wondered about the name Gd gave to Jacob, beside Israel, he called him Yeshurun in Shacharits. Comes from the Hebrew word yashar -- means straight, upright, yes? As I listened to and read Chapter 1 it came back to me, and I’m wondering now if Jacob’s personality was one which Rambam is describing. E.g. live “the straight path” (the righteous path).

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