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  Yisroel Fridman -1 year ago

  I was listening/learning the above shiur, how the Rebbe Rashab draws a distinction between מוחין and מידות, and how you explained that real transformation happens on the level of מוחין. It brought to mind a story about my shver - Rabbi Hirschel Rabiski. Before he went out on Shlichus to Ladispoli, Italy in 1980 to work with the Russian immigrants, he had a Yechidus with the Rebbe, and the Rebbe told him that he should begin to מקרב the yidden with the most deepest concepts in Chassidus. Not Shabbos, Kashrus etc...the בכן's, rather מוחין בעצם

  A beautiful shiur. Thank you very much

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  Tzvi -4 years ago

  Bitul that's not felt

  What came to mind, and might fit in nicely with the concepts of the ma'amar is what the Frierdiker Rebbe writes in Likutei Diburim Likud beis, chapter 14,  on the butul in Tikun, that is not felt, following the explanation why Moshe Rabeinu a"h needed a veil to prevent the Karnei Hod from feeding in a moment that wasn't filled with Torah learning.

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  Rochella -4 years ago

  how to relate to this

  The Rebbe talks about all those elevated states of hishtalshelus.

  
  And it’s easy to focus and become absorbed with this part of the maimar. But the Rebbe also  emphasized an other very, very important aspect of avoidath Hashem. That I need to embrace and respect where I am today. Often in my avoidah
  and my prayer can feel very detached, passionless and robotic and it can feel very disappointing. Can I make place for this reality? Without judgement and criticism?

  
  Can I be compassionate with myself? That doesn’t mean that I become complaisant and not  strive to climb the ladder.
  But it’s a different journey when I can make peace with where I am and who I am today. The tendency that I have when I learn about those lofty states of existence is to ask you, Rabbi YY, how do we get there?

  
  But that is precisely not what this maimar is teaching us. I must embrace my journey, my starting point with honesty and compassion. Perhaps it’s that acceptance that will allow to begin the journey “of getting there”.

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  Rochella -4 years ago

  I’m never defined by any experiences of the I. My definition is I’m chelek Elokai mimahal.
  
   When in a state of neshomo I’m not devoid of emotional experience. Perhaps instead of experiencing my own middois, I now become a vessel to experience God’s middois.....
  
   I cannot imagine a deeper emotional experience of connection to Elokus. It’s not a detached state at all, I’m experiencing the middois from God’s perspective....
  
  I can’t imagine a deeper state of connection.
  Even in a marriage when I’m busy always focusing how I am feeling about you, the marriage, in a certain sense I’m  basically married to myself.
  
   When is a marriage transformed into a much deeper relationship?
  
  When it’s no longer about me, but it’s about connecting to the experience and emotion of the other and being able to transcend my own perspective and needs.
  
  That kind of relationship is the deepest union, it’s not about detachment from self, it’s the ultimate attachment to the other through my transcendence of self......
  
  But a relationship can never start from neshomo.
  
  It starts first in the experience of the I. With the truth of Nefesh and Ruach...
  
  Transformation is being able to realize that the truth of yesterday becomes the klipa of today.....
  
  In a relationship or in avoidath Hashem when we are not ready to transcend a certain part of ourselves but do so anyway, it can bring tremendous inner resentments and anger 
  
  We are often left with feelings of having betrayed the self. We need to be honest, loving and compassionate with ourselves if we want to move towards true and real transformation.

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  Admin -4 years ago

  Text messages sent during this class:

  The Rebbe Rashab's parting words sheds light on all the Rebbeim's prioritization of the seforim (case) especially manuscripts.
  
  Is neshama really the level of tzadik?
  
  From Moshe: I have observed hundreds of baalei teshuva. Those who last go step by step with a solid foundation, then building up. Those who go for the "black hat" right away fail easily.
  
  From moshe: emotions/middos, even the highest and most exquisite, are necessary to motivate the person but are external to essence and Mnuchin. After such inspiration by the external middis, one can internalize the moychin/intellect to absorb the truth and transform oneself.
  
  Moychin. I would say : Try to experience this rather than understand it
  
  The truer way to describe "red" is to call it e.g. "3.7 megahertz".
  
  [3/27/2020 8:43:49 AM] Moshe: precisely because the essence of the middos is the "I" is why it took the ultimate humble person without an "I" to receive the intellectual essence of Emes, the Torah to the moychin and be truly transformative.
  
  [3/27/2020 8:38:08 AM] Moshe: yet wasn't Hashem acting on His middos of desiring a dira down here, of a relationship to his subjects/people, to motivate Him to create.
  
  [3/27/2020 8:45:23 AM] I'm not sure I get the point you're making exactly, to dumb it down for Hungarians, my grandma used to say, halt dich nisht azoi klein, bizt nisht azoi grois
  
  [3/27/2020 8:45:54 AM] Maybe Real Truth, once realized intellectually encompasses both the intellectual realization and the passion/emotions. Both are vital for the relationship.
  
  Reb Mendel Futerfas use to say that English is a grobeh shprach (language) because whenever you spell letter I it is always CAPITAL I
  
  [3/27/2020 8:46:56 AM] Good morning I really don't understand what your saying but i know in my heart it sounds & feels good. I live some of what the Rabbi is saying here and there and there is some understanding the Mammer is up lifting I'm hoping as I stick around and listen something will stick. My whole life is עבד כנעני at least )to the best. How do we break it down to start to change and perhaps move up to עבד עברי and so forth. Is there a way to break it down like חנינא סגן הכהנים??
  
  [3/27/2020 8:47:04 AM] Can I experience an awareness that my "I" is a part of rather than an awareness that is part of the "I"? Is this what he's saying
  
  [3/27/2020 8:35:10 AM] I would say : Try to experience this rather than understand it
  
  Why cant we ask for more, We can get closer as we are part of HaShem
  
  [3/27/2020 8:49:27 AM] Why is mochin considered a kli for etzem, isn't it also a ultimately a limited medium, albeit, less limited than (self-oriented) middos?
  
  Moshe: response to Avraham: the ultimate is perhaps NOT a relationship even with Hashem, but to lose oneself completely, to lose the "I" in Hashem and His essence.
  
  Moshe: a relationship exists between two disparate entities, but the ultimate is to merge into One.
  
  [3/27/2020 8:50:37 AM] אני מבין שמידת זה התרחקות בסופו של דבר כי הכל זה ה"אני" ועוד, זה מסוכן כי בסופו של דבר זה הכל תלוי בי. ואני יכול לבלבל בין טוב לרע. משא"כ ביטול המידות אני נוגע בעצם, וזה המסירות נפש שאנשים מאוד מפחדים מזה. עזריאל ע.
  
  [3/27/2020 8:50:58 AM] Maybe the level which is higher is to be a Merkava like the Avos where you are one with Hashem and you can only do what He wants
  
  3/27/2020 8:51:45 AM] Hi, can you explain this concept between a husband and wife relationship Between Mochin based relationship vs middos based Saul. Merrick, NY
  
  [3/27/2020 8:54:15 AM] Beautiful Example from the poor man and wealthy dining, well explained
  
  [3/27/2020 9:03:08 AM] Moshe: yet, since became frum from emotion/breslov/shlomo carlebach, etc while the moychin/intellectual emes approach worked for others
  
  3/27/2020 9:08:37 AM   
  I got it! I'm Hungarian but I read martin Buber . Thank you! Great shiur
  
  [3/27/2020 9:08:54 AM] Who has achieved this? What human being has achieved this and stayed there?
  
  [3/27/2020 9:08:56 AM] So if we are going to find אלוהות we can't be present ? Total ביטול. So we may not kknow we are there in other words we can't be present at that time ?
  
  Tzvi Schwartz
  ​So if we are not touch by the medos does that mean we are the in tuch with the esence?
  
  Aharon: Even faking is a good madraga these days when there is so of us  who don't have either midos or mochin -    a leibadick, singing, dancing, happy minyan is a chizuk for people even if it's doesn't last so much.
  
  [3/27/2020 9:16:06 AM] Once you are there it lingers within you forever
  
  3/27/2020 9:18:06 AM   
  Who achieved this? The Avos, Moshe Rabeinu, the Nesiei Chabad and others
  
  [3/27/2020 9:19:49 AM] (1/2)At the end of the day, even when one gets to the truth, even there isnt it the good feeling of "being in touch with the truth" so it all circles around feeling for us humans at end of the day.

   

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