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We Love Emotional Inspiration; But Oneness Comes From Real Understanding

Can I Experience an Awareness That My "I" Is a Part of Rather Than an Awareness That Is Part of the "I"?

1 hr 19 min

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This class was presented on Friday, Parshas Vayikra, 2 Nissan, 5780, March 27, 2020, live from Rabbi Jacobson's home in Monsey, NY. Beis Nissan 5780 is the 100th anniversary of the yartzeit of the Rebbe Rashab, the author of this Maamar. 

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    Yisroel Fridman -1 year ago

    I was listening/learning the above shiur, how the Rebbe Rashab draws a distinction between מוחין and מידות, and how you explained that real transformation happens on the level of מוחין. It brought to mind a story about my shver - Rabbi Hirschel Rabiski. Before he went out on Shlichus to Ladispoli, Italy in 1980 to work with the Russian immigrants, he had a Yechidus with the Rebbe, and the Rebbe told him that he should begin to מקרב the yidden with the most deepest concepts in Chassidus. Not Shabbos, Kashrus etc...the בכן's, rather מוחין בעצם

    A beautiful shiur. Thank you very much

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    Tzvi -4 years ago

    Bitul that's not felt

    What came to mind, and might fit in nicely with the concepts of the ma'amar is what the Frierdiker Rebbe writes in Likutei Diburim Likud beis, chapter 14,  on the butul in Tikun, that is not felt, following the explanation why Moshe Rabeinu a"h needed a veil to prevent the Karnei Hod from feeding in a moment that wasn't filled with Torah learning.

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    Rochella -4 years ago

    how to relate to this

    The Rebbe talks about all those elevated states of hishtalshelus.


    And it’s easy to focus and become absorbed with this part of the maimar. But the Rebbe also  emphasized an other very, very important aspect of avoidath Hashem. That I need to embrace and respect where I am today. Often in my avoidah
    and my prayer can feel very detached, passionless and robotic and it can feel very disappointing. Can I make place for this reality? Without judgement and criticism?


    Can I be compassionate with myself? That doesn’t mean that I become complaisant and not  strive to climb the ladder.
    But it’s a different journey when I can make peace with where I am and who I am today. The tendency that I have when I learn about those lofty states of existence is to ask you, Rabbi YY, how do we get there?


    But that is precisely not what this maimar is teaching us. I must embrace my journey, my starting point with honesty and compassion. Perhaps it’s that acceptance that will allow to begin the journey “of getting there”.

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    Rochella -4 years ago

    I’m never defined by any experiences of the I. My definition is I’m chelek Elokai mimahal.

     When in a state of neshomo I’m not devoid of emotional experience. Perhaps instead of experiencing my own middois, I now become a vessel to experience God’s middois.....

     I cannot imagine a deeper emotional experience of connection to Elokus. It’s not a detached state at all, I’m experiencing the middois from God’s perspective....

    I can’t imagine a deeper state of connection.
    Even in a marriage when I’m busy always focusing how I am feeling about you, the marriage, in a certain sense I’m  basically married to myself.

     When is a marriage transformed into a much deeper relationship?

    When it’s no longer about me, but it’s about connecting to the experience and emotion of the other and being able to transcend my own perspective and needs.

    That kind of relationship is the deepest union, it’s not about detachment from self, it’s the ultimate attachment to the other through my transcendence of self......

    But a relationship can never start from neshomo.

    It starts first in the experience of the I. With the truth of Nefesh and Ruach...

    Transformation is being able to realize that the truth of yesterday becomes the klipa of today.....

    In a relationship or in avoidath Hashem when we are not ready to transcend a certain part of ourselves but do so anyway, it can bring tremendous inner resentments and anger 

    We are often left with feelings of having betrayed the self. We need to be honest, loving and compassionate with ourselves if we want to move towards true and real transformation.

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    Admin -4 years ago

    Text messages sent during this class:

    The Rebbe Rashab's parting words sheds light on all the Rebbeim's prioritization of the seforim (case) especially manuscripts.

    Is neshama really the level of tzadik?

    From Moshe: I have observed hundreds of baalei teshuva. Those who last go step by step with a solid foundation, then building up. Those who go for the "black hat" right away fail easily.

    From moshe: emotions/middos, even the highest and most exquisite, are necessary to motivate the person but are external to essence and Mnuchin. After such inspiration by the external middis, one can internalize the moychin/intellect to absorb the truth and transform oneself.

    Moychin. I would say : Try to experience this rather than understand it

    The truer way to describe "red" is to call it e.g. "3.7 megahertz".

    [3/27/2020 8:43:49 AM] Moshe: precisely because the essence of the middos is the "I" is why it took the ultimate humble person without an "I" to receive the intellectual essence of Emes, the Torah to the moychin and be truly transformative.

    [3/27/2020 8:38:08 AM] Moshe: yet wasn't Hashem acting on His middos of desiring a dira down here, of a relationship to his subjects/people, to motivate Him to create.

    [3/27/2020 8:45:23 AM] I'm not sure I get the point you're making exactly, to dumb it down for Hungarians, my grandma used to say, halt dich nisht azoi klein, bizt nisht azoi grois

    [3/27/2020 8:45:54 AM] Maybe Real Truth, once realized intellectually encompasses both the intellectual realization and the passion/emotions. Both are vital for the relationship.

    Reb Mendel Futerfas use to say that English is a grobeh shprach (language) because whenever you spell letter I it is always CAPITAL I

    [3/27/2020 8:46:56 AM] Good morning I really don't understand what your saying but i know in my heart it sounds & feels good. I live some of what the Rabbi is saying here and there and there is some understanding the Mammer is up lifting I'm hoping as I stick around and listen something will stick. My whole life is עבד כנעני at least )to the best. How do we break it down to start to change and perhaps move up to עבד עברי and so forth. Is there a way to break it down like חנינא סגן הכהנים??

    [3/27/2020 8:47:04 AM] Can I experience an awareness that my "I" is a part of rather than an awareness that is part of the "I"? Is this what he's saying

    [3/27/2020 8:35:10 AM] I would say : Try to experience this rather than understand it

    Why cant we ask for more, We can get closer as we are part of HaShem

    [3/27/2020 8:49:27 AM] Why is mochin considered a kli for etzem, isn't it also a ultimately a limited medium, albeit, less limited than (self-oriented) middos?

    Moshe: response to Avraham: the ultimate is perhaps NOT a relationship even with Hashem, but to lose oneself completely, to lose the "I" in Hashem and His essence.

    Moshe: a relationship exists between two disparate entities, but the ultimate is to merge into One.

    [3/27/2020 8:50:37 AM] אני מבין שמידת זה התרחקות בסופו של דבר כי הכל זה ה"אני" ועוד, זה מסוכן כי בסופו של דבר זה הכל תלוי בי. ואני יכול לבלבל בין טוב לרע. משא"כ ביטול המידות אני נוגע בעצם, וזה המסירות נפש שאנשים מאוד מפחדים מזה. עזריאל ע.

    [3/27/2020 8:50:58 AM] Maybe the level which is higher is to be a Merkava like the Avos where you are one with Hashem and you can only do what He wants

    3/27/2020 8:51:45 AM] Hi, can you explain this concept between a husband and wife relationship Between Mochin based relationship vs middos based Saul. Merrick, NY

    [3/27/2020 8:54:15 AM] Beautiful Example from the poor man and wealthy dining, well explained

    [3/27/2020 9:03:08 AM] Moshe: yet, since became frum from emotion/breslov/shlomo carlebach, etc while the moychin/intellectual emes approach worked for others

    3/27/2020 9:08:37 AM   
    I got it! I'm Hungarian but I read martin Buber . Thank you! Great shiur

    [3/27/2020 9:08:54 AM] Who has achieved this? What human being has achieved this and stayed there?

    [3/27/2020 9:08:56 AM] So if we are going to find אלוהות we can't be present ? Total ביטול. So we may not kknow we are there in other words we can't be present at that time ?

    Tzvi Schwartz
    ​So if we are not touch by the medos does that mean we are the in tuch with the esence?

    Aharon: Even faking is a good madraga these days when there is so of us  who don't have either midos or mochin -    a leibadick, singing, dancing, happy minyan is a chizuk for people even if it's doesn't last so much.

    [3/27/2020 9:16:06 AM] Once you are there it lingers within you forever

    3/27/2020 9:18:06 AM   
    Who achieved this? The Avos, Moshe Rabeinu, the Nesiei Chabad and others

    [3/27/2020 9:19:49 AM] (1/2)At the end of the day, even when one gets to the truth, even there isnt it the good feeling of "being in touch with the truth" so it all circles around feeling for us humans at end of the day.

     

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    Moshe -4 years ago

    Various

    1. The Rebbe Rashab left us the manuscripts. Accords with the Alter Rebbe's prioritaztion of manuscripts , and the Rebbe's concern about the seforim (and manuscipts?) case.

    2. Re: gradual development. I have observed hundreds of baalei teshuva. Those who last go step by step  with a  solid foundation, then build up. Those who go for the "black hat" right away often fail. 

    3. Emotions/kiddos, even the highest and most exquisite, are necessary to  motivate the person but are external to essence and  moychin and are usually fleeting. After such emotionally inspired motivation, one can internalize the moychin/intellect to a sorb the emes and then transform oneself permanently.

    4. In some way, wasnt Hashem acting, so to speak, on His middos, his desire, to have a dwelling place below and a relationship with His creations/subjects that motivated creation?

    5. Precisely because the essence of  the  middos is the "i" is why it took the ultimate humble person, Moshe, without an "I" to receive the intellectual essence of Emes, the Torah, to moychin and thus be truly transformative for himself and  his flock.

    6. The true wat to describe "red" is "3.7 megahertz".

    7. Ironically the ultimate is, perhaps not a relationship WITH  Hashem,  for that requires two disparate entities, but to lose oneself completely, to lose the "I", IN Hashem and His essence and ultimately  merge as one, as before creation. Reconstructing the broken puzzle.

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    Aharon -4 years ago

    Thank you for being in our lives Reb YY

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    Aharon -4 years ago

    You never know

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    Levik 11 years old -4 years ago

    When is gemra shiur 

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    Aharon -4 years ago

    Even faking is a good madraga these days when there is so of us  who don't have either midos or mochin -     a leibadick, singing, dancing, happy minyan is a chizuk for people even if it's doesn't last so much.  

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    Aharon -4 years ago

    Alot of people are so emotional, including me, so we don't want to make the emotions less important cuz that may take away some of our self-esteem, our self-identity cuz we're so caught up in our emotions. 

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    Aharon -4 years ago

    People are asking "isn't emotion also important as well as mochin understanding"   How do they work together?

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  • Anonymous -4 years ago

    Question

    Cnnected but in the wrong way

    Yes I feel like I'm connected with hashem I'm very religious and chassidic however I feel and know that it's out of guilt not because I really want I feel like it is all done because I'm scared not to do it

    The same in marriage many times I feel like I'm doing something for her or for my kids because that's what I'm supposed to do not because I really want to 

    It's not where my passion is

    I'm aware that this is wrong and I'm not comfortable with it so I know but I'm not connecting my knowledge with my action 

    Please guide in this mamer the answer

    I feel like the answer is in this mamer from then first class 

    Thanks very much

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    Rochella -4 years ago

    It’s a paradox to write about the thoughtless state of neshomo with the ink of the mind.

    The journey...

    I get there only without intention and without conscious planning. Like the mitzvah of shickcho. I need to shed all the layers that make up the ego, but not with intention, rather by forgetting about their existence. Every layer of existence of “I“needs to shed. It sheds through hishtalshelus, through osmosis.
    In the beginning of climbing the ladder I’m driven by passion and purpose. As I climb higher I begin to lose those outer forces that were manipulating my ascent.

    I move inwards into the silence of  nothingness and everythingness.

    Remaining in the stillness of this Divine moment (not my moment) and then allow it to completely engulf me as I remain naked of self.

    Nothing exists, outside of Divine will. There is no longer climbing to arrive. I become a channel for God. For God to arrive through me. Never needing to go anywhere is the ultimate destination. It brings me back to the beginning, back to Ezem. I’m back in the stillness of Ezem that only gets moved by the Divine. I have shed all that wasn’t mine. Now rebirth of the new is possible and transformation takes place. Oneness without intention. This is a state that you don’t enter or exit with intention.

    It just is.

    Not like a mood that you get into and then get out of. That’s the madreigo of  ruach. Neshomo touches eternity. It’s like an eternal state of consciousness that remains constant.

    l wonder if this process of Nefesh, Ruach and Neshomo is like the process we learned in the maimar with the Rav and the Talmud. What is Neshama today, is Ruach tomorrow and the avoida and cycle of hishtalshelus recommences?

    You once told us a moshul of a king that for one day allowed everybody to have access to him.
    And on every floor the king prepared beautiful jewellery, diamonds, paintings, delicacies and every imaginable materialistic indulgence was displayed there. The king was on the last floor. Unfortunately everybody got so lost and focused on all the different floors, that they forgot that they came to the palace to get to the king. Perhaps in this maimar that’s what’s happens when we get stuck in the first 2 stages and remain there....

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      Moshe -4 years ago

      Beautiful.  

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