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Ayin Beis -- #6: The Superiority of Finite Containers over Infinite Energy

Hemshech Ayin Beis Maamar 3, Chapter 11

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Ayin Beis -- #6: The Superiority of Finite Containers over Infinite Energy - Hemshech Ayin Beis Maamar 3, Chapter 11

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  • RLW

    Rabbi L Wineberg -11 years ago

    sparks
    Ber: The sparks are flying from your questions.

    If  I understand your q. correctly, here is the answer:

    The ma'amar is dicussing the spark's relation to the flame, vs the flame's relation to the coal.

    The Rebbe RaShab is contrasting a product, (standing apart from its source), with an emanation, flowing from (and and thus connected to) its source.

    If you need further clarification please reframe the question (and punctuate carefully).

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      Ber -11 years ago

      Re: sparks
      Rabbi, the maamar states clearly on the top of page 18, that the netzutz, the spark, comes from "etzem hagacheles," the essence oif the coal, where the flame does not come from "etzem hagacheles."  That is a very different message than what you just explain in your comment.



      Is it a mistake in the printed Ayin Beis? Or are we not getting something here?

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    Ber -11 years ago

    spark?
    what does the maamar mean that the spark comes from the coal, the spark is the very essence of the coal, vs. the flame which is not? Does not the spark come from the flame, a spark is a spark of the flame? How does the spark come from the very coal? does a coal produce sparks without a flame?

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    Yosef -11 years ago

    Question
    If this finite light has its own identity, the koach hagvul, why is it called "reshmu," meaning that it is only a "trace" of the previous light? It is not a trace, it is the full power of Hashem's ability to be finite?

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      Rabbi L Wineberg -11 years ago

      Re: Question
      Yosef sh"y:

      Whenever something is isolated from its context, like a phrase out of a conversation or a letter from a word, it loses most of its potency. What is left is but a "trace" of what was there in its context.

      The ko'ach hagvul, when removed from the context of "or ein sof" and isolated as a ko'ach hagvul, is but a reshimu, even though it is the full expression of Hashem's ability to limit Himself.

      Good question, keep them coming.

      See the ma'amar Kvod Malchuscha 5661

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    Michale -11 years ago

    Title question
    Sorry, don't have clear understanding: why the Title has two different numbers "Ayin Beis -- #6" and "Hemshech Ayin Beis Maamar #3"? It happens not the first time. Maybe, if you can point to the page number, it will be better.

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      Anonymous -11 years ago

      Re: Title question
      "Ayin beis 6" is the number of the class, "maamar 3" is the number of the discourse we are learning. the page numbers vary in different editions, hence we stuck to this reference system.

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        Michale -11 years ago

        Re: Title question
        It will be OK, if there was consistense, for example,  "Ayin Beis #3" does not has "Hemshech Ayin Beis Maamar 2 Chapters 5-6 " or "Hemshech Ayin Beis Maamar 1 Chapters 5-6 "

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